Astute wrote:

The defensive side of a map is advantageous to begin with so I doubt the maps you speak of are not balanced. Sure, the enclosed parts of the map make it difficult for the opposition to attack. However, that’s not a means to say it’s not relatively easy to achieve with fine navigation to prioritising targets.

If the defensive side of a map is already advantageous, the enemy needs a bomb plant to win, doesn't the fact that some of the mw3 maps limit the amount of exists, or just have more positions of power on defense add to that advantage? Thus proving my point that offense is bad side on those maps.

I'm not some person randomly yapping my mouth about how some maps have good sides and bad sides for certain specific gamemodes. I almost exclusively play competitive snd. I think i would know if some maps have an advantage on defense, other than the defense itself.

For argument's sake.


It's a perfectly logical recommendation. I don't see why you need to say all he needs to play against a full team is to use fine navigation and good target prioritization. That makes no sense. A good team set up, like i described, could be compared to a spawn trap. Getting out of a spawntrap in domination requires multiple tries, something you don't have in snd. Especially when a failure is a death, a loss for that round if all your teammates are randoms.

Rant :/

All I play now is SND. I play prolly 60-70% of time in party. When Im running solo against a full team of recon users I do fine on close quarters maps. Its tougher on open maps. There flashs arent as effective in CQB and I flash my spots on opening routes anyway, on all maps. I use recon pro 80% of time myself and 20% xcond pro. I always counter flash and try to pick as many crossing as possible. Waiting in a hiding spot on open map will get you flashed/C4d in a hurry. On maps like interchange they likely will be running across Bdom middle spamming the crap outa flashs towards B bomb and marking you up. Followed closely by C4 boom. You have to defend Bbomb though cause they will take over and plant if you play to passively. Village is another example if you head over to B bomb into a hail of flashs, avoid the rock cause they will smaw/C4 or javelin you. Its basically pretty tough against a full party of recon users that are decent if your running solo and your not so great yourself and most likely your teamates suck.

Recon pro, Sit rep pro, C4, SMAWS, Javelins, theres a ton of douchbaggery in SND but its fun as hell. Just gonna have to get your gun skillz and experience up to deal with it.

The quickest way to get get better is to run 3v3 or 4v4 MLG varient Scrims. You can find pick up scrims or teams to play against on the GB forums

gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/forums/#

Find witch game you want scrim on and click BATTLES

I agree he will get better playing GB. But GB wont prepare him for the onslaught of underhanded tactics used by teams/individuals in pub matchs...

jerrylundergard wrote:

Ya gives you the the gunskill, map knowledge, and good awareness that helps you handle the bullshit and still do well

To clear up: Defence in itself is an advantage. So, in a deeper meaning of the context some maps fair better in defensive positions than others.

I’m sure the design of those maps aren’t so one sided. Otherwise, the map designers wouldn’t implement such maps in the game. To add further, not everyone on that side can easily dominate thus by that, there’s equal chance to win on both sides.

The experience I have in playing an extensive amount of SND is enough to substantiate the earlier point. Aside, don’t need to present you with an example to validate a point. The previous statement made clearly makes rational sense.

In addition, containing the opposition to their side of the map is far from being a “spawn trap”. In fact, the term is need not applied here since the meaning is not accurate of describing the context. The way in which you describe the map side of an “extreme advantage” is of an exaggeration. Instead, the particular side has a considerable advantage.

Anyways, we’ll leave the discussion here. Thanks for the debate.

P.S It’s “exits” not “exists”.

Naivete

You are sure ? you give cod developers much credit in terms of map design. With cod's track record of poorly designed perks,weapons,game mechanics,killstreaks reward, what makes you think that maps are so flawlessly designed ? I could say more, i don't need to. Anyone who has ever touched a cod game or even knows anything about infinity ward, knows they don't have the best track record for implementing anything perfectly into their games. Ever here of one man army noobtubes ?



Now now, i see we have different agendas in this conversation. Me, attempting to explain simple strategy. You, attempting to flaunt your intellect and rhetorical prowess. Although you don't seem to be doing much thinking, just aimlessly arguing really.

Case and point



Any person capable of logical reasoning, or anyone who has ever typed on a keyboard, can see this has a typo. Not a lack of grammatical knowledge.

I enjoyed the banter quite a bit until that point. I doubt even the most feeble-minded, spiteful, child would use such a weak form of insult.

We'll end the discussion at that ? Why are you sending me notifications messages? It can't be that serious...

Astute wrote:

Well. Ever heard of the word "discretion" before? I'm not going to bother to reply to such tone. To be frank, there's no need for it at all.

Mind you - Next time try to be polite in tone.

P.S Just to let you know, I won't be having any discussions with you in the future. Oh, I don’t hold any grudges against you.

learn everything about the maps and make sure you use the right guns for that map

And this is coming from the guy that patronized me ?

How to beat good players

This is simple. It takes one step.

Step 1.) Be better than them.

First mistake, thinking you will beat a full party when you are alone. I always stay for the competition though, and try not to get mad. Just be friendly and maybe they will stop trying so hard if not, just leave. Or trash talk like I do 90% of the time and go try hard yourself. Part of being better than good players is knowing tricks. I also try to be unpredictable, like rushing spawn/rush planting. You can also just camp in your spawn, which pisses people off. Never do the same route twice though, they will figure it out and kill you. Sometimes, it's not about stats, but just trying to piss other people off

TefftxNightmare wrote:

What I do when I see a well organized team on the other team is try to make them as mad as possible. Have you ever noticed that when you play with teammates yourself that you can voice your opinion which psychologically can make you more angry cause you use tone of voice and just hearing it sometimes can make me mad. That is what they're doing to you. Getting inside your head and saying 'haha you have no chance in beating us.' Well that is what you have to do to them. They get excited when you call them a camper or trash talk because they know it will get their chances of winning against your team higher.

The art of getting people mad.

Simple definition:

Ballistic vests and counter camping/ extreme conditioning. Now lets go into detail,

Ballistic vests IMO are the most powerful low tier KS in MW3. If you pair this up w/ the counter camping extreme conditioning technique they are bound to get mad sooner or later.

Counter camping w/ extreme conditioning: SnD is a racing game if you believe it or not. Take a guess on why their killing you. They are getting to the head-glitch or high ground before you are. So get there first so that you don't have that racing game type issue. Memorize the rush routes you take at the beginning of each round. Did they work well? Yes. Repeat. No. Figure out another one.

Hope this helped