seriously why did they get rid of lightweight? the speed proficiency is a joke and isn't even available for the weapons(shotguns, smgs) that would actually benefit from it.

where have you been for the last 5 months

It's the pro version of Extreme Conditioning/Marathon..."Climb Objects Faster" That's as much lightweight as your getting.

Glad they got rid of light wieght.

Well probably because the maps are so close cornered with no open area? really no point in lightweight and a kid just being a speed demon with a striker running past you and then spamming the fuck out you is annoying mate.

D1C3M4N wrote:
1) you didn't spell it right /nazi
2) you didn't offer an explaination

SnakeBite wrote:



In all honesty though kid,the maps are not that small. The spawn system makes them seem smaller then they are. Fallen is a decent size map,Outpost,Lockdown,Resistance,Liberation,Piazza,Village are all pretty small. If anything the perk would be more annoying on SMGs then it would be on the shotguns. Shotguns are not nearly as common as they were before and I highly doubt that would change simply because of a lightweight perk. It's not as if that would make everyone decide to use shotguns.

there would be no benefit with a shotgun since i think you already are at 100%, unless you expect to run at 107% which would be ridiculous...

dead silence offers the no fall damage of lightweight.

prO-krE-At wrote:

In MW2 and Black Ops you could run at 107% base mobility using Lightweight. There was even a time in MW2 where you could run at 110% base mobility using Lightweight, but it was patched IIRC.

The removal of Lightweight may have been a dev decision for balancing purposes, similar to how Fourzerotwo mentioned at CoD XP that Extreme Conditioning did not grant unlimited sprint for balancing purposes.

Lightweight was super annoying in MW2 and kinda of useless in Black Ops due to Perk System.

I think the game is fine without it. If you want speed just die enough times to get Juiced.

i can see why it was taken out and also why marathon was changed to limited sprint i think its fine as it is now at the minute and that the maps are made out so that you dont really need it anyway
the problem with ppl rushing is that it was super easy in mw2 and now that ppl dont find it as easy to do they instantly blame the ppl who made the game for screwing around with the perks
to put it simple ppl can still rush with great affect but it takes skill to be a good rusher now
you especially see it in s&d where a person who knows the correct way to rush will very easily wreck a team
limiting the sprint took the whole headless chicken stlye out of the game
ctf is a great example
in black ops i always playd this solo with marathon and lightweight pro and i could completely destroy the other team cause i had such a big advantage
but now that its limited that means i have to pick the right time to pull a flag to get the most out of my sprint

some dont like it but i think its a step in the right direction

AlbinoGibbon wrote:

i always used it on ARs to speed up on their inherent slowdown. AK47 with lightweight/SoH/Ninja is one of my fav classes in blops. maps really didnt lend themselves to SMGs as much or i used shotguns and was always around flags so flackjacket is what i usually used on that class because they moved fast enough.

it is however funny to see a guy juiced with a shotgun in the game now... even saw a few guys running the speed proficiency when that hack was out with shotguns. that was annoying.

my favorite thing about lightweight really was the no fall damage as pro version... which i get with dead silence so i got ninja and lightweight wrapped up in the pro perk as a single perk now.

Why did they get rid of lightweight? They wanted to make it even more impossible to escape DMH.

prO-krE-At wrote:

This^. I miss it for that reason, but SMGs are so much more useful in MW3 compared to BLOPS that it doesn't bother me too much.

jefflcarr wrote:

exactly... dead silence pro and im fine...