I thought IW was RE. Meh, i was extremely pissed off when I wrote that, but I stand by my gun on guy with last stand YA DONE! statement. (ThunderToro anyone?) But IMO, the only big posotives in COD are SOME perks. Stealth perks were good, untill Blops, now its all anyone uses. I do like the custom killstreaks intoduced in MW2, but the killstreaks in blops arent worth a shit against a team of Ghosties. I'm just not feeling excited for the next COD, the campaign is the only ting I'm attracted to so far.

JohnnyNewtonia wrote:



I'm sorry, but since when should developers appeal to just your needs and wants in a video game? If you get tired of grenade launchers, second chance, and getting "bullshitted" out of a kill you deserve, go play GB or some scrims. You need to adapt to the "bullshit" of Call of Duty, it is a simple fact. Guaranteed they will have Flak Jacket in MW3 because it's been a huge success in Black Ops.


Just realize that CoD evolves into different things with every title that is released. MW2 was annoying with the OMA/DC/GL setup, but if you run into that type of crap, just leave the game. Nobody and I mean NOBODY gives a fuck about your precious statistics in a video game. I've run across numerous people with a 2.5-3 K/D and a 3+ W/L and they are the FIRST people to leave a game if they start going negative or barely positive because they get bombarded by a solid team that communicates.

Missing the point there. I'm not a good player at CoD, and I never have been. Only ion blops where the bullshit has been toned down big time from Cod4 onwards have I had an abover 1.00 K/D. In coD3 and 2 I had a 1.50 give or take a few, and I was 12 then. either I have gotten worse going into my prime, or the game has raised its bullshit-o-metre by 9000. but in blops it is lowered substantially. But the bullshit that does happen in B.O makes me extremely pissed.


I'm also not one that cares about my 'precious' stats, mine are something like 0.93 W/L and 1.24 K/D. The W/L is partly due to the problems PS3 had with connection for the forst month of this game. A lot of it is due to me rage quitting, but not because i'm not going posotive or breaking even, but because I don't want to play a match where everyone uses an RC-XD, or Ghost, or Last Chance. If i get bullshat, I leave. Simple as. I don't have the patience for it anymore, and I am seriously thinking about quitting FPS's altogether after what has happened to me in the last session of gaming.

Fair enough, but you need to realize that the series will change, and it can't always appeal to you. All the games have positives and negatives, and it seems the one that kills Black Ops is the hit detection is pretty terrible compared to MW2 and MW1. Ghost is not a problem, it's just the people that use it. Second Chance can be a problem when it is not tuned correctly.



A good change for Second Chance/Last Stand/Final Stand is if you get put into second chance, you need to physically push triangle, and pull out your pistol and finish the person off. My major problem with Second Chance is the Pro version of it. You are getting beat, you should NOT have the chance to be revived. Pro version should you be able to use your grenades. Even if they kill themselves with their own grenade, they are going negative. They could also write coding into the game to where if they kill themselves in Second Chance, you get the credit for the kill and it counts toward the score in TDM or FFA.


Last Stand was not a problem in CoD4 or MW2, but in BO, it's a pain in the ass if you run into an entire lobby of them.

zomgwtfbbqrofl wrote:

If Second Chance were to continue I'd also like it if the user HAS to have a pistol on him at all times (no more of this automatically pulling an M1911 out of nowhere). This means that he has to equip some kind of pistol as his secondary (no launchers, and none of the shotguns or machine pistols that might be in MW3 as secondaries). Once he is in the game, he also can't swap his pistol for a primary or anything other than another pistol. If he doesn't equip a pistol or if he swaps it for something else, then Second Chance becomes a wasted perk for him and he doesn't fall into it. It would be a tough decision for a lot of the kiddies as they'd have to choose between their beloved launchers or shotguns and their Second Chance perk.

The noobtubes aren't that powerful in Black Ops.

treeski wrote:



That is a good idea also. The best idea however, is to completely get rid of the perk, but all we know that will not happen at all.

Sniper Rifles
-Barrett .50 Cal
-M21 EBR
-RSASS
-PSG1
I highly doubt this is the real sniper list. Its standard for them to have at least 1 bolt action sniper there is no way all of them are semi-auto.

They should have the Desert Eagle in the game and a fully auto M16

JohnnyNewtonia wrote:

Well if you miss CoD2 so much why don't you just marry it?! Well you can't, because I won't let you! See? How does that feel?

Obscure Portal references aside, there is a barebones playlist for people just like you.

is there a confirmed bolt action rifle?

Assault Riifles:

M4A1 Carbine
M16A4
ACR
TAR-21
HK416
G36
SCAR
AK-47
G3
M14
L85
F2000
FAL
AUG
FAMAS
Submachine Guns:

UMP.45
MPS
MP5K
AK-74u
Vector
Uzi
MAC-11
P90
MP40 (less power)
PP2000
TMP
Skorpion
Sniper Rifles

M40A3
Barrett M82
M2000 Intervention
M14 EBR
WA2000
R700
Dragnov
M24
LIght Machine Guns

M249
M240
M60
RPD
RPK
MG4
MG3
Handguns

Desert Eagle
Colt 11
M9
Python
USP.45
357. Magnum (Pick one I don't care)
Makorov
M1911
Shotguns

SPAS-12
M1014
Mossberg 590
Mossberg 580
Saiga Shotgun
Launchers

Stinger
Javelin
AT4
RPG (It hurts me even to say it but it must stay)
M72 LAW

ReLaGz223 wrote:


Where did you find this?

If the ACR is like the one in mw2 O_O . Mw3 is gonna be fun

ReLaGz223 wrote:


Why would they have RPD AND RPK? RPK was designed to replace RPD.

Updated List
*These are all from a leak but in no way confirmed.
Lets work with this list please, try to keep everything organized, thank you.


Assault Rifles
-AK-47
-M4A1
-ACR
-FN FAL
-G36c
-FAMAS

Sub Machine Guns
-MP5
-AK-74u
-UMP .45
-SCAR-L
-P90

Light Machine Guns
-RPD

Sniper Rifles
-Barrett .50 Cal
-M21 EBR
-RSASS
-PSG1

Shotguns
-AA-12
-Model 1887
-Striker
-KSG
-Spas-12

Handguns
-P99
-MP412

Machine Pistols
-Skorpion
-Magpul_FMG

Launchers
-M320 [Individual]
-AT-4
-XM25

Attachments
-Holographic Sight
-Dual Scope
-Suppressor
-Foregrip
-Bi-Pod (Snipers)
-ACOG Scope
-Laser Sight (Handguns)
-Grenade Launcher (Assault Rifles)

The SCAR-L the 5.56 round is the same as in the M4 and M16 so it would still likely be a rifle.

I find it hard to believe that it would be a sub, granted the 74u but that did have a smaller bullet and shortened stock.

One thing I find weird though is how few 7.62 guns they have. Are they going to get rid of that tier of AR's mostly?

Antigravity19 wrote:

You have that backwards, the Scar-L is an SMG and the AK-74u is an AR. I know I have the AK-74u categorized under the SMG list but that's because CoD has a bad history of misplacing that weapon & that's probably where it's going to end up.

Pathological Gamer wrote:

The SCAR-L has a larger round then the AK-74u. Scar uses the NATO standard 5.56 x 45mm while the russian standard small rifle round is 5.45 x 39mm. SCAR-L is a another option for US Spec forces instead of the M4.

Both SCAR versions use rifle rounds H uses the 7.62 rifle round while the L uses 5.56. Its fairly accessible info, look it up. 5.56 is the standard round for M16, M4, G36 and numerous other ARs.

If IW changes the classification on it its on them but it is a rifle.

Edit: I forgot to mention, I didn't make it clear in the first post. The 74u's shortened stock might have been why they originally miscatagorized it. If COD is looking for new smg's they should really look at the PDW class. Stuff like the MP7 and Knights Armament PDW for hybrid rounds between pistol and rifle cartriges

no lmgs?? or 74u. i know 74u is overpowered but they can make it worse of a weapon

tanner4132 wrote:

Look at the list again :]

The AK-74u is in there and one RPD. Like I said the list isn't official and I hope to God they add a Bolt-Action rifle. Also whoever said that the RPK was in this game is very confused.

ahahahahahahaaa... so the 74u is gonna be there.. maybe ill get the game after all.. (*sigh*) (IM NOT A 74u USER!) :DD

Im just one of those who likes to have sarcasm included in fun.. sometimes. Those who knows me understand:P

Yeah there are definately still a few holes to be filled. A few more LMG's, a bolt action, some pistols and machine pistols(if they are secondarys still)

My vote for the new bolt action is the new M24E1. Its a new version of the M40/R700. It looks somewhat like the intervention.

Antigravity19 wrote:

List of Bolt-Actions that make me (man juice.)
-Zastava M93 Black Arrow
-PGM Hecate II
-Blaser R93 Tactical